A defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande conteininge an answeare to a certaine booke lately set foorthe by M. Hardinge, and entituled, A confutation of &c. By Iohn Iewel Bishop of Sarisburie.

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A defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande conteininge an answeare to a certaine booke lately set foorthe by M. Hardinge, and entituled, A confutation of &c. By Iohn Iewel Bishop of Sarisburie.
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Jewel, John, 1522-1571.
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Imprinted at London :: In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Elephante, by Henry VVykes,
Anno 1567. 27. Octobris.
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Jewel, John, 1522-1571. -- Apologia Ecclesiæ Anglicanæ -- Early works to 1800.
Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572. -- Confutation of a booke intituled An apologie of the Church of England -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
Church of England -- Apologetic works -- Early works to 1800.
Church of England -- Doctrines -- Early works to 1800.
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The Apologie, Cap. 22. Diuision. 1.

As for vs, wee renne not for succour to the Fire, as these mennes guise is, but wee renne to the Scriptures: neither doo wee reason with the Swerde, but with the VVorde of God: and therewith, as saithe Tertullian, doo vvee feede our Faithe: by it doo vvee stirre vp oure hope, and strengthen our Confidence.

M. Hardinge.

Ye flie not to the Fire, as wee doo, saie ye, but vnto the Scriptures. Neither doo ye reason with vs with the sworde, but with the VVoorde of God. Ah good woorde of God, thou seruest to many purposes. And is it in deede the woorde of God Sirs, that keepeth so many reuerende Fathers in

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prison these many yeeres?* 1.1 It is the woorde of God, that hath depriued so many menne, some of their liuinges,* 1.2 some of theire countries, whose life ye can not blame? Is it the woorde of God, that by crueltie of imprisonmente of late yeeres gaue moste certaine occasion of death to those holy, learned, and worshipful menne, who for their singular vertue beinge wel knowen, neede not here to be na∣med? Is it the woorde of God, that made so mutche adoo in youre late parlament for establishinge of youre bloudy lawe, whereby ye woulde haue power to put menne to death* 1.3 for the Faithe of Chri∣stendome? The Turkes and Saracenes haue alwaies suffered them to liue in their dominions, but our Gospellers by their woorde of God are taught to kil them. Blessed be God, who hath geuen to our noble and moste clement Queene Elizabeth a better spirite to vnderstande his woorde in this point.‡ 1.4 then these Gospellers haue yet attained vnto.

If any of you doo saie, that the newe Superintendentes doo not keepe the olde Bishoppes and leanred Clergie in prison, but the Lawe of the Realme: I answere, firste, that the Lawe is a crabbe of your owne stocke: next that neither the Bishoppes before time burnt Heretiques, but the Lawe of the Realme, the lawe of the Prince, the lawe of al Christendome. Neither was the same made by Papistes of late yeres, as ye woulde youre deceiued disciples to beleue, but of olde time thought* 1.5 ne∣cessarie by Princes to be enacted, for the better maintenance of quiet in their dominions.

The B. of Sarisburie.

It is no newe practise, ye saie, to kille Heretiques. I graunte you. Neither is it a newe practise, to condemne godly menne by the name of Heretiques. Youre Fathers sommetime cried out againste Christe the Sonne of God, Wee haue a Lawe:* 1.6 and by the Lawe he ought to die. And Christe him selfe saide sommetime to Hierusalem the Cittie of bloude,* 1.7 O Hierusalem, Hierusalem, that killest the Prophetes, and stoanest them to death, that he sent vnto thee. But S. Augustine saithe, Nullis bonis in Catholica hoc placet,* 1.8 si vs{que} ad Mortem in quenquam, licet Haereticum, saeuiatur: It seemeth good vnto no good man in the Catholique Churche, that crueltie vnto death be shewed vnto any man, no though he be an Heretique.

Notwithstanding, it agreeth wel with youre Religion, M. Hardinge, though your mouthes now be mousled, yet to rampe, and gape stil after bloude. Fulfil ye the measure of youre Fathers. Let it not greeue you, to heare, what Salomon saithe,* 1.9 Viscera impiorum crudelia: The very bowelles of the wicked are ful of cruel∣tie. When youre Fables, and folies be espied, then ye flee to Swerde, and Fire. Whiche beeinge once wreasted from you, youre whole Religion muste needes comme to grounde. S. Hierome saithe of other youre peeres, Pugnant Epichere∣matis ex carnificum officinis: They fighte with Argumentes taken from the Bouchers shoppes.

Ye haue wreakte youre angre longe yenough vpon innocente bloude. Beginne once to knowe the hande of God. It is harde for you, to kike stil against the pricke. Wee maie truely saie vnto you with S. Cyprian, Sacerdos Dei Euangelium tenens, & Christi Praecepta custodiens,* 1.10 Occidi potest, Vinci non potest. The Prieste of God, holding the Gospel, and keeping the Commoundementes of Christe, maie wel be killed: But conquered he cannot be.* 1.11 Wee maie saie with Tertullian, Crudelitas vestra, Gloria no∣stra est: Plures efficimur, quoties metimur à vobis: Youre Crueltie is oure Glorie. When ye comme to recken vs ye finde vs moe, and moe. Truethe aboue al thinges vvil pre∣uaile. There is no Counsel againste the Lorde.

As for oure parts, wee were neuer yet guilty to one droppe of youre bloude. Wee seeke no aide at Fire, or Swerde. Wee wil rather saie with S. Hierome, Vtiuam filios Haereucorum, & omnium qui decepti sunt, interficiamus Sagittis Spiritua∣libus, id est, Testimonijs Scripturarum. Woulde God wee maie rather kille the Children of Heretiques, and of al them, that be deceiued, with Spiritual Arrowes, that is to saie, with the Testimonies of the Scriptures: And with S. Augustine, O fi occidas eos de gladio bis

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acuto,* 1.12 & non sint Hostes tui: Sic enim amo eos occidi sibi, vt vitrani tibi: Woulde God thou wouldest kille them, O Lorde, with the twoo edged sworde, (that is, with thy Holy Woorde) That they maie no lenger be thine Enimies. For so I wisshe them to bee killed vnto them selues, that they maie liue vnto thee.

And againe, Vindicet nos Deus de vobis, vt ipsum errorem vestrum in vobis oc∣cidat, & nobiscum de Veritate gaudeatis:* 1.13 God so reuenge oute cause againste you, that he maie kille youre erroure in you, that ye maie reioice togeather with vs of the Truethe.

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