A defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande conteininge an answeare to a certaine booke lately set foorthe by M. Hardinge, and entituled, A confutation of &c. By Iohn Iewel Bishop of Sarisburie.

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A defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande conteininge an answeare to a certaine booke lately set foorthe by M. Hardinge, and entituled, A confutation of &c. By Iohn Iewel Bishop of Sarisburie.
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Jewel, John, 1522-1571.
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Anno 1567. 27. Octobris.
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Jewel, John, 1522-1571. -- Apologia Ecclesiæ Anglicanæ -- Early works to 1800.
Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572. -- Confutation of a booke intituled An apologie of the Church of England -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
Church of England -- Apologetic works -- Early works to 1800.
Church of England -- Doctrines -- Early works to 1800.
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The B. of Sarisburie.

Christe saithe,* 1.1 The Scribes, and Phariseis sitte in Moses Chaire: Doo that they saie, but doo not, that they doo. Ergo, saie you, Wee maie not departe awaie from the Pope. How so euer it fare with your Conclusion, M. Hardinge, verily in your premisses yée compare the Pope, and his Cardinalles with the Scribes, and Phariseis. And yet the Scribes, and Phariseis sate in the Chaire, and taught the Lavve: Your Pope, and Cardinalles sitte stil, and teache nothinge. Not∣withstandinge, let vs wel allowe of this Comparison.* 1.2 Ye maie remember, that Christe also saithe, Woe be vnto you, yee Scribes, and Phariseis, that shutte vp the Kingedome of Heauen before menne: and neither doo you enter in your selues: nor wil you suffer other, that faine woulde enter. Woe be vnto you, yee blinde Guides: Woe be vnto you, that haue taken awaie the keie of Knovvledge. Likewise he saithe of them vnto his Disciples: Beware of the leauen of the Scribes, and Phariseis: Let them goe:* 1.3 Blinde they are, and the Leaders of the blinde.

To sitte in Moses Chaire, was, truely, and rightly to instructe the people, and to open vnto them the Lawe of Moses.* 1.4 S. Augustine saithe, Hoc ipsum, quòd bona dicebant, & ea, quae dicebant, vtiliter audiebantur, & fiebant, non erat ipsorum. Cathedram enim, inquit, Mosi sedent: That they spake good thinges vnto the people, and that the thinges, that they saide, were profitable to the hearers, and dooers of the same, it was not of them selues. For Christe saithe, They sitte vpon Moses Chaire. Againe he saithe, Sedendo super Cathedram Mosis, legem Dei docent.* 1.5 Ergo per illos Deus docet. Sua verò illi si velint docere, no∣lite audire: nolite facere. Certè enim tales sua quaerunt, non quae Iesu Christi: Sittinge vpon Moses Chaire, they teache the Lawe of God: Therefore it is God, that teacheth by the meane of them. But if they wil teache you thinges of their owne, then heare them not: then doo it not. For certainely sutche menne seeke their owne: and not the thinges, that per∣teine to Christe Jesus. Ye sée therefore, M. Hardinge, wée are bounde to heare the Pope, and his Cardinalles, and other like Scribes, and Phariseis, not absolute∣ly, or without exception, what so euer they liste to saie: but onely so longe, as they teache the Lavve of God. Further then that, S. Augustine saithe, VVee maie neither heare them, nor folovve theire Counsel.

Hereunto ye thought it good, to adde more force, as a supplie, to aide youre wantes. Christe saide vnto Peter, I haue praied for thee, that thy Faithe shal neuer faile. Ergo, saie you, The Pope can neuer erre. This waie of reasoninge, I trowe, yee Learned of Peter de Palude a woorthy Doctoure of your side. For so he rea∣soneth: Ego rogaui pro te,* 1.6 Petre, vt Fides tua non deficiat. Ex quo habetur, quòd Romana Ecclesia in Fide errare non potest: nec de eius Fide dubitare licet: Sed in omnibus est sequenda: Peter, I haue Praied for thee, that thy Faithe maie not faile. By these woordes wee are taught, that the Churche of Rome cannot erre in Faithe. Nei∣ther is it lawful to doubte of the Faithe of that Churche: but in al causes wee are bounde to folowe it.* 1.7 But S. Augustine saithe, Nunquid pro Petro rogabat: pro Io∣hanne, & Iacobo non rogabat? Vt coeteros raceam: To leaue the reste, did Christe Praie for Peter? and did he not Praie for Iohn, and Iames? Againe he saithe,* 1.8 Hac nocte postulauit Satanas vexare vos, ficut triticum: & egorogaui Patrem pro vobis, ne deficiat Fides Vestra: This nighte hath Satan begged to threashe you, as if it were wheate: but I haue Praied to my Father (not for Peter onely, but) for you, that your Faithe maie not faile. So saithe Origen, Nunquid audebimus di∣cere, quòd aduersus vnum Petrum non praeualiturae sint portae Inferorum: aduersus coeteros autem Apostolos,* 1.9 ac Praefectos Ecclesiae sint praeualiturae? An Petro Soli dantur à Christo Claues Regni Coelorum? Nec alius Beatorum quis∣quam

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eas accepturus est? Omnia, quae{que} priùs dicta sunt, quae{que} sequuntur, Velut ad Petrum dicta, sunt omnium Communia: Maie wee dare to saie, that the gates of Helle shal not preuaile Onely againste Peter: but shal preuaile againste the other A∣postles, and Rulers of the Churche? Were the Keies of the Kingedome of Heauen geuen onely to Peter? And shal no Holy man els receiue the same? Nay, al the thinges, bothe that were saide before, and also that folowe after, as spoken to Peter, are Common, and belonge vnto al. Therefore, as ye saie of the Churche of Rome, so maie wée saie like∣wise of the Churche of Hierusalem, where S. Iames was: and of the Churche of Ephesus, where S. Iohn was, and of other the like Apostolique Churches, not¦withstandinge they be now in the possession of the Turke, and haue receiued the Religion of Mahomete, yet, bicause Christe hathe once praied for them, The Faithe of them shal neuer faile.

Further ye tel vs, It shalbe yenough for you, to doo, as the Successoures of Peter bid you to doo. Christe now requireth not of you to obeie Peter, and Paule: but to obeie him, that sitteth in their Chaire. If this waie be as sure, as it is shorte, then is there no doubte, but al is wel. Though wée beléeue neither Peter, nor Paule, nor what so euer is writtē in Goddes Woorde, yet, saie you, If vve folovve the Pope, vvee cannot erre. For thus mutche, M. Harding, ye are hable to warrante vs by your Gospel, y Christe requireth not vs now, to be obedient to Peter, and Paule, but onely to the Popes Holinesse, y keepeth Residence in theire Chaire. This is your Diuinitie: these are your woordes. If ye euer recante the same, ye marre the flower of your Market. Wée néede not now to saie, Thus saithe the Lorde: it shalbe sufficient for vs,* 1.10 to saie, Thus saithe the Pope. Yet S. Paule so far aduen∣tureth the Truthe, and certainetie of his Doctrine, that he doubteth not to saie, If an Angel from Heauen preache vnto you any other Gospel, then wee haue Preached, accur∣sed be he.* 1.11 Vpon whiche woordes S. Chrysostome hathe noted thus: Non dixit, Si Contraria annuntiauerint, aut totū Euangelium subuerterint: verùm, Si pau∣lùm Euangelizauerint praeter Euangelium, quod accepistis, etiamsi quiduis labe∣factauerint, Anathema sint: S. Paule saithe not, If they Preache Contrarie to the Go∣spel, or ouerthrowe the whole Gospel: but, If they Preache any little thinge bisides the Go∣spel, that ye haue receiued: if they ouerthrovve any thinge, vvhat so euer it be, ac∣cursed be they.* 1.12 Therefore S. Hierome saithe, Ea doceat Episcopus, quae à Deo didicerit, non ex proprio Corde &c. Let the Bishop teache those thinges, that he hath learned of God: and not of his owne harte, or fansie.

Chrysostome saithe,* 1.13 Plus aliquid dicam: Ne Paulo quidem obedire opor∣ret, si quid dixerit proprium, si quid humanum: sed Apostolo Christum in se loquentem circumferenti: I wil telle you a greatter mater: Wee maie not obeie, no not S. Paule him selfe, if he speake any thinge of his owne, or if he speake onely as a man: But wee muste beleeue the Apostle of Christe, carrieinge Christe aboute speakinge within him.

And therefore Panormitane saithe,* 1.14 In concernentibus Fidem, etiam dictum vnius priuati esset praeferendum dicto Papae: si ille moueretur melioribus rationibus Noui, & Veteris Testamenti, quàm Papa: In maters concerninge Faithe, the saieinge of one Priuate man were to be hearde before the saieinge of the Pope: if the same Priuate man were moued with better reasones of the Newe, and Olde Testa∣mente, then the Pope. But, that vvee should no lenger obeie Peter, and Paule, but geeue eare onely to him, that is cropen into theire Chaire, it is suche Diui∣nitie, as neither Peter, nor Paule euer taught vs.

Laste of al, as vpon somme good aduauantage, ye beginne to Triumphe. Remember yee, saie ye, what ye saie? knowe yee, what ye doo? who wil regarde youre woorde, whiche with one breathe saie, and vnsaie? If it be odious to leaue our felowship, why

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doo yee it? If yee despise not the Churche, why departe ye from it? To Saie, and Vnsaie, it is your propertie, M. Harding: it is not oures. Yée haue Saide, & Vnsaide, & yet, were it not for shame, it is thought yée woulde be contente to Saie againe. Wee despise not the Churche: it is the House of God: But we mislike your defacinge, and disor∣deringe of the Churche. Christe reproued the Priestes, and Phariseis, for that they had turned the Temple of God into a caue of Theeues:* 1.15 And yet neuerthelesse he despised it not: but saide it was his Fathers house. To leaue the wicked felow∣ship of them, that beare a name, and shewe of Godlinesse, it seemeth odious be∣fore menne:* 1.16 but before God it is not odious. S. Iohn saithe, VVho so euer is sutche a one, bidde him not, God speede. For who so saithe, God speede vnto him, is partetaker of his il.* 1.17 S. Paule saithe, I warne you, that you receiue no meate with any sutche. And God him selfe saith, Comme out from her, ô my people, leste ye be partetakers of her sinnes, and leste ye receiue of her Plagues.

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