An apologie for Iohn Wickliffe shewing his conformitie with the now Church of England; with answere to such slaunderous obiections, as haue beene lately vrged against him by Father Parsons, the apologists, and others. Collected chiefly out of diuerse works of his in written hand, by Gods especiall providence remaining in the publike library at Oxford, of the honorable foundation of Sr. Thomas Bodley Knight: by Thomas James keeper of the same.

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An apologie for Iohn Wickliffe shewing his conformitie with the now Church of England; with answere to such slaunderous obiections, as haue beene lately vrged against him by Father Parsons, the apologists, and others. Collected chiefly out of diuerse works of his in written hand, by Gods especiall providence remaining in the publike library at Oxford, of the honorable foundation of Sr. Thomas Bodley Knight: by Thomas James keeper of the same.
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"An apologie for Iohn Wickliffe shewing his conformitie with the now Church of England; with answere to such slaunderous obiections, as haue beene lately vrged against him by Father Parsons, the apologists, and others. Collected chiefly out of diuerse works of his in written hand, by Gods especiall providence remaining in the publike library at Oxford, of the honorable foundation of Sr. Thomas Bodley Knight: by Thomas James keeper of the same." In the digital collection Early English Books Online. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A04328.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed June 10, 2024.

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The 9. Chapt.

The 1. Obiection of Father Parsons.

IF a Bishop or Priest, should giue holy orders, or cō∣secrate the Sacrament of the Altar, or minister Bap∣tisme, whiles he is in mortal sinne,* 1.1 it were nothing a∣vaileable.

The Answere.

IF it vvere not for reuerence vnto Father Parsons yeares and learning, which are to be honoured in a mans professed enemie, (though it be contrarie to their rules) I should surely thinke, that this were an er∣rant lie, sophistically and malitiouslie inforced, not ari∣sing naturally out of his wordes. For his wordes are plaine, admonishing Priests of their sacred functions, and holy liues he writeth thus: i 1.2 Vlesse the Christian

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Priest be vnited vnto Christ by grace, Christ cannot be his Sauiour, nee sine fasit ate dicit verba Sacramentalia, nether can he speake the Sacrament all words without ly∣ng, licet prosint capacibus though the worthy receiuer be hereby nothing hindered frō grace. Then which words, what can be said more plaine? Here is there Sophistry; VVickliffe after his vsuall manner, noting the foule a∣buses of the Church, & Church men, k 1.3inueies against notorious and scandalous offenders, whether Bishops or Priests; as notable l 1.4 adulterers, or Fornicators, and guilty of any such crimes, as wherehence offence and scādale might grow vnto the Church of God; wishing that such, continuing m 1.5 such, and hauing n 1.6 thrise beene warned thereof, by order & due forme of Law, might be remoued, and better put in the place: because they were o 1.7 percussores fratrum, that living so in open sin did consecrate, or minister, willing the people, not to par∣take with their sins, lest they should bee p 1.8 partakers of there punishments; and in some such case, it might be, that God might abhor the peoples Sacrifices, for the wicked Priests sakes, as he threatned the Jews he wold do, and this is a very dangerous opinion, is it not?

The 2. Obiection.

* 1.9It is against Scripture, for any Ecclesiasticall Mini∣sters, to haue any temporal possessions at all.

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The Answere.

THis accusation is without all peraduc̄tues false. For what were the landes and goods of Bishops, Cathedrall Churches, or otherwise belonging to Religious houses, which were giuen, Deo q 1.10 & Eccle∣siae, were they not r 1.11 Temporal, Possessions? And yet are rightfully held, according to VVickliffs tenure, by Ec∣clesiasticall Ministers; and long might they and peace∣ably enioy them for him, in as ample manner as euer they did, so long as they did see thē well imployed, ac∣cording vnto the will and purpose of the Donours, wil∣ling nothing contratie to Gods wordes. I speake of Bi∣shops lands, or lands of Cathedrall Churches▪ For as for the lands belonging to so r 1.12 many Chauntries, Col∣ledges, Abbayes, Friaries, Priories, Monasteries, and other Religious Houses, he was absolutely of opinion, that it were great pietie, for Religious kings to dispos∣sesse them wholly of them, and giue them gentifaci∣enti iustitiam, to good and godly vses, and woulde to

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God, this had beene in K. Henry the eighths minde, when he pulled downe the Monasteries, either to haue turned them into Colledges, & nurseries for learning and religion, into Hospitals, Almeshouses, Spittels, & such like religious Maisons de Dieu, or which, though I mention last, yet considering the state of the Church and the Policie of our aduersaries, I should thinke fit with the first to be recōmended vnto a Religious king, and vertuous Nobilitie, to the maintenance of a Col∣ledge of writers, Collators, Comparers, and in briefe such a Colledge, as might in short time, with good or∣ders, be able to match & perhaps overtop, al that rab∣ble of Jesuited Colledges thoroughout Christēdome. Because I haue euer beene of VVicliffes minde, in this point, that s 1.13 those which are employed in cōmon affaires of the Church should haue publike maintenance & allow∣ance. But the children of this world, are wiser then we, Vt iugulent homines, surgunt de nocte Latrones, vt tep∣sum serues,* 1.14 non expergiscere? If the Diuel be so readie to sow tares in our bookes, shal not we bee as readie to purge them out of our writings? should not we, be as diligent, to restore, as they are to take away, from the the workes of the ancient Fathers? I speake this, to a∣waken my selfe and others, that we may stirre vp these godly motions in the hearts of the people, if by anie meanes it may be brought to passe. Of the Cleargies promptnes & zeale to set forwarde so publike and pro∣fitable a busines, which the necessities of the times, & importunitie of our aduersaries doe in a manner call for at our hands, I doubt not; but alas, they that should u 1.15 helpe others, are scarcely able to mainetaine them∣selues

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and the outwarde state and face of the Church (which vnlesse it bee maintained with some Maiestie, and reuerence of the people will soone decay, and be disfigured) is so cleane changed, vt non cognoscas ean∣dem esse: yet well fare the Papists for mainetaining the outward discipline of their Church, though corrupted with much impietie and blasphemie. They know, that it fareth not with vs, as it did with the Christiās, in the Primitiue Church: we of the Cleargie want the gifte of miracles, to draw the people vnto vs, and the people haue not the gift of charitie, to draw vs vnto them: but this shalbe my comfort, non simale nunc, & olim sic erit.

The 3. Obiection.

NO Prelate, ought to excommunicate anie person,* 1.16 except he knowe him first to be excommunicated by God.

The answere.

HEre I suppose the u 1.17 Venetians, wil step forth, & and iustifie VVickliffes assertions: for (if I be not deceaued) they write the very same words. who knowes not, that excommunications as wel as other Ecclesiasticall ordinances, maie be x 1.18 abused by inferi∣our

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officers; as Archdeacons, Officials, Chauncellors, and Commissaries, yea and sometimes by Superiours, as Bishops, Archbishops, or the Popes holynes. Some there are, and euer wilbe, that will corrupt the integri∣tie of the Church Discipline; with a varice, by y 1.19 praying not only vpon the flesh of there vnderlings, but even by breaking and crushing the bones, by the thunder of there Excommunications: some by rashnes, proceeding, sine z 1.20 debito examine, without due examination: some of a 1.21 pride, to be feared of the people; whereas the greater Excommunication (for of such I speake) should begin in Gods name, and end in his feare.

The 4. Obiection.

* 1.22SO long as a man is in deadly sin, he is nether Bishop, nor Prelate.

The Answere.

STill our aduersaries plaie the notable Sophisters, First wee wil see the occasion ministred vnto him. of speaking these or the like words, then wee wil consider the manner of speaking of them, & lastly con∣sider the words themselues, and the consequence or il∣lation. The occasion giuen vnto him, of inueying so sharply and eagerly against the manifest and manifold abuses of the wicked Prelates of the Church, was this. He liued in a very corrupt time, when the tares had so far ouer-growne the good corne, that he stood doubt∣full where to begin his reformation: whether with the

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head, or with the taile, with the inferiour sort of Cler∣gie men, or with the Superiours: but he resolued with himselfe in the end, that it was best to begin with the Prelats and Heads of the Church, whom he saw as al he world besides, positos in maligno altogether for the most part, set vpon wickednes, admonishing them e∣very where of their duties, which they had so cleane forgotten, that whereas the Holy Ghost had made thē overseers ouer the flocke, they did as it were so manie woolues, or mastie curs, woorie them, or els fleese thē, nothing caring for to feed them, by leading them into the pleasant pastures of Gods word; yea, as it maie ap∣peare by his writings) they did altogither b 1.23 refuse to preach vnto them, c 1.24 persecuting & prosecuting the true Preachers of Gods word, and they did not only offende them selues, but incouraged others of the inferior sort, to do the like, by their wicked examples: d 1.25 giving Holy orders, vnto men of vnholy life, & vnable for their skill and knowledge to governe the people, committed to their charge, in peace and godlines; bestowing their benefices for e 1.26 carnal respects, not for mens worthines, or me∣rits, defrauding the poore of their almes. Whē he saw ( saie) this Canker or spiritual Gangrene, fretting and festring the soundest parts of the Church, what could he do lesse then he did? to exhort them, to tke avvaie these scandals, our of church, to reforme these abuses. His words of exhortation (which is the 2. point, that we are to obserue) are these, mistaken by the aduersa∣rie, for they are no other, then such as are frequent in the works of the Holy Fathers; that f 1.27 it is not the name, but the life that makes a Bishop; that g 1.28 if a man haue the

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name of a Prelat, and do not answere the reason thereof in sinceritie of doctrine, and integritie of life; but liue scandalously and in mortal sin, that he is but a nomine∣tenus Sacerdos a Bishop or Priest in'name, not in truth; but that hereby wee should inferre a contempt of the Cleargy in general, and condemne al Bishops & Pre∣lats, is not the meaning (I am sure) of Iohn VVickliffe, if his h 1.29writings may be credited against their false surmi∣ses, and improbable coniectures: Reformation is that which he sought, which God (evermore blessed be his name) did afterwardes so establish in this kingdome, that the like againe, is not to bee shewed for discipline and doctrine, throughout all the reformed Churches in Christendome; by taking awaie, not the things thē∣selues (i 1.30 for that were to cut downe al the vines, for some few droken men sakes) or as the wise man spea∣keth, to wring the nose of the Church too hard, till the bloud come againe; but by taking away the abuses from the things▪ or from the persons, which is the happiest kinde of Reformation.

The 5. obiection.

* 1.31TEmporal Lords maie according to their owne wils and discretions, take awaie the goods from a∣ny Church me, whensoeuer they offend.

The answere.

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VVHo saith so Father Parsons? Wicklyff, no, if you meane that the King, and the 3. estates of this land, should take awaie the lands of Religious houses, so generally offending, by miscon∣uerting them to the maintenance of their vnnecessa∣rie orders, and wicked liues; J graunt the proposition to be true, and k 1.32 according vnto his meaning, vrged in more then in one, or two places. The Colleges of Moonks, were the Colleges that hee speakes against, and the Vniuersities of Friers the Vniuersities which he impugned. For otherwise hee himselfe passed tho∣rough out all degrees in this famous Vniuersitie, not without manifest and open proofe of his learning, and reward of his industrie: (for hee was both l 1.33 Scholler, Fellow, and Master in diuerse Colledges, here in Ox∣ford. Now as for the pblike revenues of Bishops, and the lands of Cathedral Churches; he thought it might stand with equitie, reason and lawe, Common, Ciuile, and Canon, that wheras Christian Princes and Tem∣poral Lords, were the Donours of those large possessi∣ons, which they did giue and assigne to such Bishop∣ricks, or such Cathedral Churches, for the honour of God, the saluation of there own soules; and the reliefe of the poorer sorte, especially of the Cleargie, they should haue m 1.34 some interest in them to see them well bestowed. And who knows not, that the king receiues vnto him selfe an n 1.35 Homage in the one, and a right of Visitation in the other; if they offend o 1.36 notoriously and

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scandalouslie, and afterp 1.37 lawful admonition wil not re∣dresse the abuses of their lands, or reforme the wick∣ednes of their manners, the King may by his Regaltie (as he proueth verie strongly) punish the offendors, & take away theirq 1.38 Temporalties, by his Archbishops, or other Ministers, r 1.39 and this is all that can be saide a∣gainst VVickliffe, in this point, all which (as you see) is nothing, s 1.40 but that which is most reasonable, iust and conformeable vnto the f Lawes and cstomes of this land.

The 6. Obiection.

* 1.41TYthes are meere almes, and may be detained by the Parishioners, and bestowed where they wil at their pleasures.

The Answere.

THat Tythes are meeret 1.42 almes, hee holdeth euerie where, it was his errour: but that they may be detai∣ned by the Parishioners, and bestowed where they wil at their pleasures, is o vntue, as nothing in the worlde can be more. That Tythes are meere almes, I say, it was his errour. He trusted too much vnto the Commō Lawyers, whose iudgment hee seemes to follow in ma∣ny

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things verie commendably, as namely in * 1.43 defense of the Kings Ecclesiastical and Temporal power & Re∣galty. They hold(u 1.44 if I be not deceiued)x 1.45 that Tythes were not due vnto any particular Church, before the Councel of Lateran; but that men might bestowe thē, where they would, & so VVickliffe following them, said that within few yeares before his time, men paide their Tythes & Offerings at their own free will, to good mē & able, to great worship of God, to profit & fairenes of Holy Church fighting on earth. but, (with reuerēce be it spo∣kē vnto that honorable Professiō, & vnder reformatiō, of my opinion, if J thinke a misse) I am of the same o∣pinin, that Master z 1.46 Charlton a country man of ours and a 1.47 Hospinian a learned German doth out of Anti∣quitie maintaine, as most consonant vnto the Analo∣gie and proportion of Scripture; to witthat Tithes, that is to saie the Tenth part, is, was, and euer more shalbe due, vnto the Priests and Ministers of the Gos∣pel, ante legem, in lege & post legem, before in, and since the law, as the fitest ordinarie meanes, for the mainte∣nance of the Clergie; else parishes being so vnequally diuided at the first, and Impropriation foūded in Po∣perie, and continued in Protestancie, growing so fast vppon vs, if the Minister should haue noe more, but a tenth part (which is his ordinarie maintenance) the b 1.48 minister maie reach vnto them, the bread of life, & meane while starue himselfe, for wāt of materialbread

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But to returne vnto Iohn VVickliffe, & to examine his opinion more strictly about Tythes or Almes, call thē by what name you please, for my particular I account them duties, and liuelode, and as the Common Lawe cals them the Ministers free-hold; to the great confusi∣on of Parsons, and al that wrangling Sect, I doubt not, but to demonstrate this point very cleerely vnto you, that VVickliffe was as earnest, for the maintenance of the Cleargie, and as bitter an inveigher against al c 1.49 Si∣moniacal Lay-Patrons, or Temporall Lords detaining the right of the Church as anie of them: d 1.50 that hee tels thē in expresse wordes, that it is in Salutem anim, it is as much as their soule is worth to paye their Tithes duly and truely, vnto the Parson; and that in case the people, standing, (as they doe to this day, in many pla∣ces, too ill affected vnto the Ministery) should either at their pleasure, or vpon displeasure, with daw there e 1.51 temporal almes, he may with draw his spiritual alms from them. But perhaps you will replie & say, Tythes are indeede to be paide vnto good Ministers and prea∣chers, but what shal we pay them vnto one, that wee know to be a lewd companion, a verie varlet, an open drunkard, adulterer or Fornicator, or a murderer of mens soules, aswel as of their bodies? Yes verily, in VVicklffes iudgement, f 1.52 vnlesse the fact be very noto∣rious indeed, such g 1.53 as the people know per iudicum ope∣rationis, by their liues and manners (h 1.54 for it is not for them otherwise to iudge their Minister) they haue not

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iudicium Iurisdictionis; and although they may iudge their liues, yet they mae not in any sort take away the Tythes quite and cleae from the Church; but i 1.55 seque∣ster thē, as it were for the next Incumbent in this wise. The partie delinquent is either so vitious a man of life or doctrine, as that there is no hope of his amendmēt; or els hee hath cōmitted some such fact, as wilful mur∣der, or Treason, whereby he is ip so facto depriuable in Law; or finallie he is one that seemes to bee corrigible: the two former are to be remoued or degraded the mi∣nisterie, the later sort of offenders, are thus to bee pro∣ceeded against: k 1.56 cōplaint must be made vnto the Or∣dinarie, (after he hath been l 1.57 three times charitably in∣formed, and admonished of his fault by the Parishio∣ners, and m 1.58 there followes no amendment) if the Ordi∣narie refuse to punish, or winke at his offences, so scan∣dalous vnto the Church of God, the n 1.59 Bishoppe of the Diocesse, must be informed thereof: or if he refuse to giue satisfactiō vnto the Parishioners, the Archbishop must be interested in the cause; and if o 1.60 neither Ordi∣narie, Bishop, nor Archbishop will right them, then maie the p 1.61 king by his royall auctoritie, either in per∣son, or by his Temporal Officers and Ministers, heare

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q 1.62 & determine the offence (though the offence be of that nature, that it properly belong vnto their conu∣sance, by r 1.63 punishing the offender either in bodie or goods. But as VVickliffe saith, the s 1.64 mildest course is by taking awaie the tithes from him, not frō the Church, (for that were against his owne rule) becauset 1.65 Decimae praedales non debent subtrahi, cum ad Ecclesiam perti∣neant, in cuius damnum, factum praepositi nō redundat, lest many good Ministers should be punished for one lewd Clergie mans fault. And this the u 1.66 King may doe, ashe proueth very stronglie, out of all the uu 1.67 lawes that are, and by the example of the wisest king that euer rained. Now because there cā be no smoke, without some fire, I wil in a word or two informe you of the groūd of this their accusation, & how they were misled, or VVick∣liffe mistaken in this point, and so dismisse our aged Fa∣ther Parsons with his threefolde, or rather manifold peruersions. VVickliffe in all his bookes and treatises,

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doth euerie where commend a kind of x 1.68 Evangelicall pouertie, perswading Cleargie men to renounce the vaine pompe, and glorie of the world, and to lead (if it were possible) an Apostolical or Evangelical life, to be cōtent or y 1.69 paide if we han lif elode & to be hiled with, that is, with food and raiment, this estate to Priest (in those daies vnmarried) he z 1.70 commēdeth as the better; yet he approued wel enough of vsing the things of this world, and he himselfe enioied Tythes, went a 1.71 well ap∣parelled, and kept a good table, of that which was his owne. For I read not of anie great gifts that he had gi∣uen him, of anie man Temporal, Lord, State or Poten∣tate. Perhaps being so wel acquainted with the Com∣mon Lawyers, he was the likelier to keepe his own. So that to conclude this point, he did not b 1.72 actually debar Ministers from hauing, but from ouer much affecting the things of this world, which were to be renounced per cogitationem & affectum, in minde and affection: and so forsooth for vrging this doctrine and taxing there a∣buses, he was c 1.73 thought to bee a sore enemie to all the Cleargie, and a sharpe inuaier against Tithes. And thus much shall suffice for an answere vnto all indiffe∣rent

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Parsons, concerning Father Parsons lewd and fri∣volous obiections: it remaineth that we proceede to discusse and examine our Apologists reasons, vvhich may seeme to some men more forcible, because there proofes are fetched from our own writers for the most part: for that which is alleadged as out of VVickliffes works, I do shrewdly suspect to be verbatim taken out of VValdē, d 1.74 which is as true in his reports of VVickliffe as Nicephrus Callistus is in his Ecclesiasticall stories, both of them professe great sinceritie in words, & yet in deed haue neither truth nor honestie in their words.

The 1. Obiection of the Apologists.

* 1.75HE seemed to contemne all Temporal goods, for the loue of eternal riches, adioined himselfe to the Beg∣ging Fryars, approuing their pouertie, and extolling their perfection.

The Answere.

HE did not only seeme, but in effect as farre forth, a became a sanctified and regenerate man, did e 1.76 cō∣temne all Temporall goods, and that for the only loue of eternal riches. This is a grieuous imputation, or ra∣ther commendation, if you consider the duty of f 1.77 eve∣rie good Christian, and the holy profession which he makes in Baptisme. For saie, VVickliffe perswaded al o∣ther men to be as himselfe was, that did neither g 1.78 set,

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nor settle his affections vpō 'the world, which preached against Couetousnes because he had heard S. Paul call it Idolatrie; against an inordinate and preposterous af∣fection of the temporal things of this life, because the Fathers and Scripture are against it, & what of al this? How many Sermons, Epistles, 'and Postels of Jesuites and Friars are extant, which doe commend the same doctrine vnto vs, with exquisite and emphaticall per∣swasions, allusions, and amplifications. So that hither∣to we see, there is no harme done. That which follows out of Stow the old, that he adioined himselfe to the Begging Fryars, is taken out of Walsinghā which was Stowes Auctour, and VVickliffes too great enemie to be beleeued. Master Stow, not to defraud him of his iust praise, was a paineful Citizen, by trade a Taylour, by his industrie a Chronicler, so well minded to the publike good, that for fault of better writers, he tooke vpō him at the first to record such things as happened in that Metropolis and chiefe Cittie, and being some∣what encouraged in his labour, hee tooke vpon him to deduce the Historie of the whole Island, from the first beginning, and to contract al our stories into one smal volume. But here his learning failed him: for being not able h 1.79 to vnderstand his Auctors, how should he iudge them? And not iudging them, how could he write or cite anie thing out of them, iudicioussie, pertinentlie, and as became an Historian? I spare to speake, what I know, concerning his books; his reuerend old age, and incredible zeale to the common good, shalbe to me in∣steed of so many garments, to couer his historicall im∣perfections. But to come to the point, thus our Apolo∣gists

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do reason; Master Stow out of his trāslated Wal∣singhā saies that VVickliffe was of the order of the Beg∣ging Friars, and Walsinghā was a Lyar, ergo Answere Cuius contrarium verum est, we wil beleeue Walsing∣ham an other time for this tricke. For he was so far frō euer being of that order, that neuer was East more di∣stant from West, or blacke opposite to white, then he was to their disordered orders. If you please not to be∣leeue me, take your eies in your hands, and read these two i 1.80 Treatises, and then saie who is the Lyar.

2. Obiection.

* 1.81HE held that Ecclesiasticall Ministers should begge.

The Answere.

ANswere as before Cuius contrarium verum est, he held that Ministers should not beg. Sith k 1.82 beg∣ging is damned by God, both in the Old and in the New Testament. Read againe the l 1.83 5. Chapter of his booke, against the orders of Friars.

The 3. Obiection.

HE condemned lawful oathes, savouring therin saith Osiander of Anabaptisme.

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The Answere.

I now see it verified of Lutherans and Protestants, & of all other writers, m 1.84 which Vopiscus obserued of Historians, nullum non Historicorum mentitum, that the best historians by trusting other writers or repor∣tets, may deliuer an n 1.85 vntruth now and then. Osander was a good Historian, but hee neuer read VVickliffes works; or if he had seene some of them, he saw not all. For in his Latin Exposition vpon the o 1.86 third commande∣ment, and his p 1.87 booke of the Truth of the Scripture, he doth plainly shew the contrary, condemning only al Equiuocall, amphibological, q 1.88 mixt, & wandring pro∣positions, whether with oath, or without oath, willing men not for a r 1.89 world of world, or for the s 1.90 saluation of infinite soules to lie, that is to equiuocate (as he inter∣preteth it) much lesse to sweare an vntruth, that is to fortweare. His treatise againstt 1.91 Equivocatiō, is a most profound, learned, and iudicious worke; and worthy to be put in print, if it were an entire discourse of it selfe, where u 1.92 Parsons may see, that hee hath not so much as a smal starting hole left, to put his head in vnsought or vnstopt.

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The 4. Obiection.

HE taught, that all things come to passe by absolute necessitie.

The Answere.

I hope our Apologists neede not to bee sent backe a∣gaine to schoole, or to their Schoolemen, to learne this distinction, that al things that shall be, bee in re∣spect of God and his decree necessarie, though in re∣spect of vs they be not so, from whom the knowledge of Gods will, in this behalfe, is purposely hidden, be∣cause we should not disesteeme or neglect praier, and other ordinarie meanes for our Saluation. He telleth vs, that Gods promises and threatnings are x 1.93 conditio∣nall, & that as God hath appointed the end, so he hath appointed the meanes of our Saluation but notwith∣standing this necessitie, these are his very words,y 1.94 quā∣vis omnia futura de necessitate eveniāt; Deus tamē vult quod bona servis suis eveniant, per medium guo oratur.

The 5. Obiection.

HE defended humaine merits, as the damnable Pelagian held them, in so much that Melanch∣thon saith accordingly of him. Verily he did not vnderstand, nor hold the iustice of faith.

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The Answere.

THis obiection is taken for the former part out of VValden, for the later out of Melāchthō, though I haue cleerely z demonstrated the negatiue out of his owne words: yet because the later part of the ob∣iection hath more edge in it then ordinarie, because he seemed to haue read some of VVickliffes works, for an∣swer to him, I say, that ether he read some of his works which he made when hee was buta 1.95 newly conuerted, which might peraduenture sauour of follie, or of a bad spirit; or els that hee was cosened by some spurious and bastard Treatises, which were broached in his name, and laid to his charge, an imputation,b 1.96 not proper to VVickliffe alone but common to him with many of the ancient Fathers and Doctors of the Church.

The 6. Obiection.

HEe taught a seditious doctrine,* 1.97 and mother of all re∣bellion, teaching that there is no ciuill Magistrate, while he is in mortall sinne, and that the people may at there pleasure correct Princes, when they doe offend.

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The Answere.

IF VVickliffe doe teach any such doctrine, he is vtter∣ly to be condemned by our Church, and to be refor∣med in that point: but if they belie not his words, he admonisheth the king & all other inferiour officers & Magistrates, as he did Bishops earst while, that he bea∣reth not the sworde in vaine, or hath his office for nought, but to doe thec 1.98 office of a king, wel and truly, to see his Lawes executed, and iusticed 1.99 sincerely ad∣ministred; and if he happen to be defectiue in his duty, by suffering the sword of iustice to rust in the scabbard, and his people to perish for want of gouernment; then he telleth him, that he is not properly and truly a king, that ise 1.100 in effect and operation, which words are spokē by way of exhortation: but so farre was he, fromf 1.101 mu∣tinie himselfe, or perswading others to rebellion, that I dare bee bolde to speake it, that neuer any man of his ranke, for the times wherein he liued, did more stoutly and valiantlyg 1.102 maintaine the kings Supremacie, in all causes, as wel as ouer al parsons Ecclesiastical and ci∣uil, against al vsurped Primacie, and forraine Iurisdict∣ions, and his maine reason was this, (to omit al others) elseh 1.103 he should not be King ouer al England, but regulus

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parua partis a pettie gouernour of some small parts of the Realme. And as touching hisi 1.104 rebellious followers, & mutinousk 1.105 Libellers (if euer there were any such as the Apologists recite out of Stowes Walsingham) I trust it is not imagined or looked for, that he should be bet∣ter attended on thē Christ was, which had followers of al sorts; sōe which followed him for bread; some to see the miracles that he did, some to take him in his words and so it might fare with VVickliffe and his schollers. But (if I be not deceiued) the matter of rebellion & se∣dition is wholly mistaken, and wrongfully imputed to l 1.106 Iohn VVickliffe, out of whose works (I speake of as ma∣ny, as haue yet come vnto my hands) though you rack them to the worst there is not so much as the least sus∣pition to be drawne of words tending to disloialty: but I read inm 1.107 Fraissard of one Iohn Ball, one of Bals Priests for ought that I know, who drew multitudes of people after him, & was the chiefe cause of that great rebellion of the Commons, vnder the cōduct of VVat

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Tyler; and Iacke Straw, which n 1.108 taught this doctrine to condemne al Laws, despise the Cleargie, and to rebell against there Soveraigne, because there was an equa¦litie of al men, and communion of al things, which is pure Anabaptisme, or Diabolisme rather; and because he liued about the time of VVickliffe, therefore this foule and monstrous heresie is by a malitious kinde of o 1.109 mistaking, laid to VVickliffes charge, which was as p 1.110 far from preaching anie such doctrine, as they are frō any truth, sincerity or ingenuity, that affirme it, as hath beene obserued by one very iudicious in collecting the Antiquities of our Land.

The 7. Obiection.

* 1.111He was more giuen to scoffing, and prating, then be∣came a sober Diuine.

The Answere.

This fault was obiected vnto him in his life time, whervnto heshapeth this modest& most Christiā answere.q 1.112 God is my witnesse, that I principally intende

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his glory, and the weale of the Church, by seeking to honor the Scripture, and obserue Christs Law: & if it hath, or shall so happen at any time, that with this good intent of mine, there creepe in, any sinister intent of vaine glorie, covetousnes of the world, or desire of revenge, I am sorry for it, & will hereafter by Gods grace amende that fault. What could be spoken more ingenuouslie, soberly or Christianly? But were it true, that they saie, yet were it not as true, that Clodius accusat machos, Catilina Ce∣thegum? they werer 1.113 guilty of the same, or worse crimes, for did he nots 1.114 note the Diuines of his time, for giving themselues to much tot 1.115 railing and scolding, more me∣vetricum orsethen Cot-queanes, &u 1.116 to such brawlings of words as doe ingēder nothing but strife, not tending to edification, or if it x 1.117 were it was but to edifie men to Hell?

The 8. Obiection.

IT appeareth by Master Foxe, that VVickliffe was an v∣suall dissembler of his faith,* 1.118 and that to preuent dan∣ger of trouble, he did vsually practize the same.

The Answere.

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HE was so farre resolued in the cause of Religion, that hee was readie toy 1.119 die almost for euerie Article of Religion, that he maintained against them, and so con∣stant and professed an enemie to al disfēblets & Equi∣vocators, that therefore he professeth of himself, that he treated that point more largely, because he took himselfe to be wronged in the highest degree, to haue thisz 1.120 imputatiō laid vnto him, as to be calleda 1.121 Magi∣ster Aequivocorū Aequivocatorum & Aequiuocorū Aequivocātiū. And he did not only thinke himself hap∣py (if it should so haue pleased God tob 1.122 die for religi∣ō) but he perswaded others to the like martyrdōe, shew∣ing, that in the cause of faith, there is no dissimulatiō to be allowed. Finallie, the words I cōfesse are in Fox, but not Foxes. For he had them from Lyarc 1.123 Walsingham, he is but the reporter, & you might haue had his iudg∣ment of al such writers, that he thought they did him d 1.124 much wrong, by such imputations, as would easilie haue appeared, if his works were at this day extant (as thankes be to God many of them are, and more may happen to be discouered in good time) to conuince his

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coniectures) to be more then probably true, and there assertions to be more then coniecturatiuely false.

The 9. Obiection.

HE invaied against the Church, for that he had been depriued by the Archbishop of Canterburie,* 1.125 from a certaine benefice.

The Answere.

WHere was that benefice? say in Oxford, and because hee was depriued of that benefice, hee wrote against the Church: by the like reason, because he was preferred to an other benefice ia Lecester-shire, where he died, therefore hee shoulde not haue inuaied against the Church, the argument is Topical. But our Apologists haue not framed their ac∣cusation aright, they shal doe wel to mende their bill, and to say, that he inuaied against the Church, because he was depriued ofa 1.126 his benefice, against Colleges be∣cause himself could not get to beb 1.127 head of a Colledge, againstc 1.128 Bishops because he could not get the Bishop∣ricke of VVorcester: Here are three crimes obiected a∣gainst one man, and verily I thinke one as true as the other: for though he euer helde a reuerend opiuion of Bishops & Prelats, as there was reason why he should, touching only thed 1.129 faultes of the diseased Cleargie,

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which were then as sicke as euer Rome was, neither a∣ble any longer to endure the maladie, nor the remedy yet I would gladly haue the proofe of these things con∣firmed vnto me, by anie Auctor, saue a Moonke or a Friar, and then it maie be I shal beleeue it; though if e∣ver a Religious Clarks Protestatiō, were to be credited, hee protesteth that hee did, as neere as euer hee could, both write, and speake and do al thingsc 1.130 ad honorē Dei & vtilitatem Ecclesiae, for the glory of God and the bene∣fit of his Church, which wordes hee oft repeateth, spea∣king them as became a professed Diuine withf 1.131 single∣nes of hart, and simplicity of minde, far from al damna∣ble hypocrisie and dissimulation.

The 10. & 11. Obiections.

MOst blasphemously, he affirmed that euerie Crea∣ture was God, & againe that od could not choose, but obey the Diuel.

The Answere.

* 1.132THese obiections are taken from Bellarmine & some other Jesuits, & it was wonder they did escape both our Apologists and Father Parsons; but belike they did not thinke them to bee true, els doubtles they woulde haue vrged them: For answere wherevnto, it seemeth vnto mee, that the former obiection doth assoile the latter, for holding that euerie Creature was God, be∣like he distinguished the tearme God, into God abso∣lutely

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spoken, and God cum signo, or adiectione g 1.133 with a signe or addition, & so in truth he doth; & in this sence it might bee true, that such a made God, might of its owne nature, being (as all reasonable Creatures are) sinul, should obay the Diuel: but I wil not play the So∣phister. He had a more deepe, profound, Theologicall or h 1.134 Meaphysicalspeculatiō about this matter, which was plainly deiuered in his booke de Ideis, which book is not yet come vnto my hands, and therfore I cannot answere the obiection, otherwise then he doth himself, by i 1.135 referring you vnto that k 1.136 learned book of his. The doctrine I am perswaded in his vnderstanding is found & true, though not fit to be vttered before the people, and though I do rather admire then conceiue it, & do therefore choose rather wholy to omit it for a season, then vnperfectly to deliuer it: yet I cannot omit to giue him this estimony, that about the nature, persons, & properties of God, about the matter of Predestinatiō, Prescience, or Prouidence, he is most religiously & pi∣ouslie affected, quo magis miror & therfore I cānot but wonder, that he should run into so l 1.137 monstrous & soule absurdities. But to leaue this, and to answere that alike monstrous, but more blasphemous obiectiō, that God must needes obey the Divell, which scarce any Diuel of Hel would dare to vtter, I know not whence they haue taken this obiection, which hath no colour nor ground in the world in it, vnlesse it be out of these words of his, which I professe are his, and wel they maie be, that be∣cause hee saith, that m 1.138 God is a great king aboue all his Creatures, that n 1.139 all Creatures are made by God to serue him, that the o 1.140 Devil is clepid Gods Angel, for hee maie

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doe nothing but at Gods suffering, that he serueth God in tormenting of sinfullmen; that * 1.141 Christ is Victor of the Divell, & q 1.142 helpeth vs against the iend: thence belike our Jesuits r 1.143 infer, that God must needs obay the Di∣vel. A good wit I confesse, may go far, and such haue our Jesuits, or els they greatly belie one another, but I doubt whether euer they shalbe able to infer so foule and irreligious a Conclusion: out of so faire and religi∣ous premises.

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