The peace of Rome Proclaimed to all the world, by her famous Cardinall Bellarmine, and the no lesse famous casuist Nauarre. Whereof the one acknowledgeth, and numbers vp aboue three hundred differences of opinion, maintained in the popish church. The other confesses neere threescore differences amongst their owne doctors in one onely point of their religion. Gathered faithfully out of their writings in their own words, and diuided into foure bookes, and those into seuerall decads. Whereto is prefixed a serious disswasiue from poperie. By I.H.

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The peace of Rome Proclaimed to all the world, by her famous Cardinall Bellarmine, and the no lesse famous casuist Nauarre. Whereof the one acknowledgeth, and numbers vp aboue three hundred differences of opinion, maintained in the popish church. The other confesses neere threescore differences amongst their owne doctors in one onely point of their religion. Gathered faithfully out of their writings in their own words, and diuided into foure bookes, and those into seuerall decads. Whereto is prefixed a serious disswasiue from poperie. By I.H.
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Azpilcueta, Martín de, 1492?-1586.
Bellarmino, Roberto Francesco Romolo, -- Saint, 1542-1621.
Catholic Church -- Controversial literature.
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"The peace of Rome Proclaimed to all the world, by her famous Cardinall Bellarmine, and the no lesse famous casuist Nauarre. Whereof the one acknowledgeth, and numbers vp aboue three hundred differences of opinion, maintained in the popish church. The other confesses neere threescore differences amongst their owne doctors in one onely point of their religion. Gathered faithfully out of their writings in their own words, and diuided into foure bookes, and those into seuerall decads. Whereto is prefixed a serious disswasiue from poperie. By I.H." In the digital collection Early English Books Online. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A02568.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed June 13, 2024.

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DECAD. III.
21. Scotus, Paludanus, Gabriel, Maior, Caietane, Concil. Florent. Io. Scotus disagreeing.

THis matter concerning the examination of the conscience, is very doubtfull,* 1.1 and controuersiall amongst our Authours: for Scotus (in 4. dist. 17. q. 1.) and Paludanus (ibid. q. 2. art. 1.) holdes, that such dili∣gence is to be required in this businesse, as the peni∣tent would vse for the remembring of any other dif∣ficult matter. But Gabriel (vpon the said dist. q. 1.) saith, that a man ought onely to confesse all that he can well remember. But Io. Maior (ibid. q. 3.) will haue a man take such paines to find out and remem∣ber all his sinnes, as a Scholler would doe, to get a Latin Oration by heart, which he should vtter a∣mongst learned hearers. Caietane (in verbo confess.) holdes, he that beleeues, he hath made sufficient in∣quisition for his sinne, though he haue not done so, hath discharged himselfe, and neede not reiterate his confession. The Councell of Florence, onely tea∣ches vs to confesse what sinnes are in our memorie, and speakes nothing of any diligence to recall them.

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Io. Scotus is too rigorous, &c. Sum. paenit. c. 15. fol. 43.2.

22. Gabriels Maior, Syluester, Thomas, Paludan against Innocentius, Hostiensis and the truer opinion.

* 1.2St. Tho. (in 4. d. 16) & Palud (in 4. d. 21. q. 3) wil haue the third person reuealed in confession: as Palud. instan∣ceth, that a woman committing incest with her bro∣ther, ought to confesse this, although her brother be knowne to the Confessor: which opinion is follo∣wed by Gabriel (ibid. q. 1.) and Maior (qu. 3.) Arg. 80. and Syluester verb. confess.. 1. q. 24. yet the truer opini∣on holdes, that the person and his sinne is to be con∣cealed: so teaches Innnocent. in cap. Omnis. Hostiensis ibid. col. 4. yea herein Io. Maior is contrary to himselfe. Sum. paenit. cap. 16. fol. 48.1.

23. Nauar against Io Maior.

* 1.3AS for cases reserued, although an Inferiour con∣fessor cannot absolue the penitent, yet the peni∣tent is bound to confesse all his mortall sinnes to his owne Parish-priest, whether reserued or other. The contrary is held by Io. Maior (in 4. d. 15. q. 5.) Sum. pae∣nit. cap. 16. fol. 49.1.

24. Nauar against Adrianus.

* 1.4FRom whence it is plaine, that Adrianus is decei∣ued, who vpon 4. q. 4. of confess. col. 9. teaches,

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that the absolution which is giuen by him which re∣ceiues onely the confession of sinnes reserued, is not Sacramentall. Sum. paenit. cap. 16. fol. 50.2.

25. Popish Doctors diuided.

TO heale, or aduise him that hath none but mor∣tall sinnes lawfully confessed, or veniall sinnes,* 1.5 the Confessor hath no neede of any knowledge or prudence, but onely skill to pronounce the verie wordes of the Sacrament: Because there is neyther contrition necessarily required, nor con∣fession indeede necessarily to be made, as it is the opinion of almost all our Doctors, in cap. Omnis de paenit. and Saint Thomas 3. part. quaest. 87. art. 1. Sum. paenit. cap. 17. fol. 54.2.

26. Vrbanus and the Glosse and Paludanus against Innocentius: and Hostiensis and Panormitan betwixt both.

THere is no smal difference amongst our doctors,* 1.6 whether in case our owne Confessor be igno∣rant, it be sufficient to aske him leaue to chuse ano∣ther, though he graunt it not. Vrbanus 2. in d. c. placuit. and the Glosse 3. in d. 3. flatly say, that in case of igno∣rance the consent of our parish-priest is not necessa∣ry: and of the same opinion is Palud. in 4. d 16. q 3. and dist. 17. q. 3. But afterward Innocent. 3. (in cap. Omnis)

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Decreed, it should not be lawfull to confesse to an∣other, without the leaue of our owne. So Hostiensis and Panormitan (in d. cap. Omnis) and Adrian (4. de con∣fess.) hold, that it is necessary, leaue should be asked of our owne, though not obtained, &c. Sum. paenit. cap. 18. fol. 55.2.

27. Paludanus, Anthoninus, against Nauar, and against Raymundus, Hostiensis, Godofr.

* 1.7IN case a Parishioner remooue his dwelling from one Towne to another, or Winter one where, and Summer another: it is questioned to whom his con∣fession is to be made. Paludanus in 4. d. 17. q. 3. and St. Anthoninus par. 3. Tit. 17. cap. 9. hold, that his con∣fession is to bee made to him, in whose Parish hee dwels when he is shriuen. But it is the truer opini∣on, that in such case he may confesse to eyther. Sum. paenit. cap. 18. Hostiensis, Raymundus, Godofredus hold, that he must confesse to his owne former Priest: but they are deceiued. fol. 57.1.

28. Hostiensis and Paludanus and Anthon. against the Glosse and Panormitan.

* 1.8A Parishioner sinning in the Parish of another (saith Hostien.) is to confesse to him in whose pa∣rish he sinned, not to his owne priest: and the same opinion is held by Paludan. and Anthoninus, but falsly,

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as the Glosse in cap. placuit. 6. q. 3. and Panormitan in cap. Cum contingit. num. 26. &c. Sum. paen. c. 18. fol. 38.1.

29. Paludanus against Hostiensis.

THat the Sacrament which from the beginning was none,* 1.9 cannot by any after-allowance be∣come good and auaileable, see disputed by Paludanus in 4. d. 17. q. 3. against Hostiensis. Sum. paenit. cap. 18. fol. 58.2.

30. Bonauenture, Richardus, Panormitan, Hostiensis, Paludanus, Nauarrus disagreeing.

WHo should be accounted our owne Priest in this businesse of confession,* 1.10 there are manie disagreeing opinions: Saint Bonauenture (in 4. d. 17. art. 5.) and Scotus, and Richardus (ibid. art. 2. q. 1.) bring three acceptions of this title: Panormitan and others in d. cap. Omnis, and Hostiensis in sum. de paenit. paragcui confit. and Cardin. in Clem. dudum de sepult. and Paludanus (in 4. d. 17. q. 3.) say, that there are more then three to be taken for our owne Priest, and Na∣uarrus in that place reckens vp eleuen. Sum. paenit. c. 19. fol. 59.2.

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