Tvvo treatises written against the papistes the one being an answere of the Christian Protestant to the proud challenge of a popish Catholicke: the other a confutation of the popish churches doctrine touching purgatory & prayers for the dead: by William Fulke Doctor in diuinitie.

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Tvvo treatises written against the papistes the one being an answere of the Christian Protestant to the proud challenge of a popish Catholicke: the other a confutation of the popish churches doctrine touching purgatory & prayers for the dead: by William Fulke Doctor in diuinitie.
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Fulke, William, 1538-1589.
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Imprinted at London :: By Thomas Vautrollier dwelling in the Blacke friers,
1577.
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Allen, William, 1532-1594. -- Defense and declaration of the Catholike Churches doctrine, touching purgatory, and prayers for the soules departed -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
Rishton, Edward, 1550-1586.
Catholic Church -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
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"Tvvo treatises written against the papistes the one being an answere of the Christian Protestant to the proud challenge of a popish Catholicke: the other a confutation of the popish churches doctrine touching purgatory & prayers for the dead: by William Fulke Doctor in diuinitie." In the digital collection Early English Books Online. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A01335.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed June 16, 2024.

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The 13. article hath 2. demaundes.

1 Furthermore I requier to know what shoulde be the cause that the Protestants them selues, doe receiue all Byshops, Priestes, Deacons, and other officers spirituall of all sortes of our Catholike church, and doe admit them as men law∣fully and sufficiently ordered, both to preach, minister sa∣craments, and to exercise spirituall iurisdiction no lesse, but rather more, than if they were of their owne ordering, where we of the Catholike church, doe not acknowledge any man of their calling to be any whit more fitte for any spirituall function than other lay men.

ALthough all godly men wishe more seueritie of dis∣cipline to be vsed, in receyuing them that come out of heresies to serue in the Church, than is common∣ly practised in England: yet you are highlie decey∣ued, if you thinke we esteeme your offices of Bishops, priests, deacōs, any better than the state of lay men, but farre worse: for we iudge them to be nothing els but Antichristianitie, heresie, and blasphemie. And therefore we receiue none of them to minister in our church, except they forsweare your religion: And so their admission is not an allowing of your ordering, but a new calling vnto the ministerie.

2 Therefore vpon this presumption that they doe not onely admit our ministring of sacraments, but also the lawfull ordering of the ministers for the same, if they can shew me why our church hauing by their owne consent and ap∣prouing lawfull priestes and bishops should not be the true church, I recant.

YOu presume to much as I saide before to thinke that we receiue your orderinge to be lawfull or your mi∣nistring of sacraments to be pure. And if you gather, that we admitte your ministration of sacraments be∣cause we doe not rebaptize them that were baptized by you,

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we maye likewise gather that you admit our ministration of sacraments, because you doe not rebaptize them that are baptized of vs, nor marrie againe those that are married in our Church: wheras you compt mariage to be a sacrament, so that our accepting of your doings doth no more allow your church, than your accepting of our doinges, doth allow our Church. And as touching the sacrament of Baptisme, be∣cause you reteyne the Institution, in baptizing in the name of the Father, the Sonne, and the holy Ghost: and in asmuch as the sacraments take not their effect of the minister, but of God, we receiue it: as of other heretikes which likewise re∣teine the Institution. Wherefore there is no cause why you shoulde thinke we allow yours to be the true Church there∣by: So that there is good cause why you shoulde recant.

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