Apophthegmes that is to saie, prompte, quicke, wittie and sentencious saiynges, of certain emperours, kynges, capitaines, philosophiers and oratours, aswell Grekes, as Romaines, bothe veraye pleasaunt [et] profitable to reade, partely for all maner of persones, [et] especially gentlemen. First gathered and compiled in Latine by the ryght famous clerke Maister Erasmus of Roterodame. And now translated into Englyshe by Nicolas Vdall.

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Apophthegmes that is to saie, prompte, quicke, wittie and sentencious saiynges, of certain emperours, kynges, capitaines, philosophiers and oratours, aswell Grekes, as Romaines, bothe veraye pleasaunt [et] profitable to reade, partely for all maner of persones, [et] especially gentlemen. First gathered and compiled in Latine by the ryght famous clerke Maister Erasmus of Roterodame. And now translated into Englyshe by Nicolas Vdall.
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THE SAIYNGES OF DE∣MOSTHENES THE ORATOVR.

Plutarchus & other historiographers doen write that Demosthenes had a poore woman to his mother and a woman vnknowen, his fa∣ther kepte a cutlers shoppe and sould kniues, a good honeste manne and meetely welthie, as the whiche when he dyed leaft vnto his soonne ho∣neste substaunce, but because Demosthenes was then but a litle childe, he & his patrimonie

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was cōmitted to certain executours or feoffers who beguiled Domosthenes so ferre, that thei neither regarded to sette hym to schoole, nor while he was at schoole to paie his schoolemai∣sters duetie. At last he became the moste noble oratour that euer was in Grece. And then tooke in hande to bee a dooer in the cōmenweale, and spared not to sette against Philippus wt moste vehemente oracions inuectiues, and wore out Philippus well enough and after hym Alexan∣der But Antipater sent certain of his garde to slea hym. Demonsthenes hearyng therof fledde priuely into a litle Isle named Calauria, & there kept hymself secrete. At lat he was found out. And when he sawe that there was no remedie but that he should bee had to Antipater, he desi∣red that he might haue licence first to write an epistle to the Atheniens. And takyng a penne in his hande he begoonne his episle thus: Demo∣sthenes to the Atheniens gretyng & wel to fare. And euen so brake of writyng and receiued poy∣son whiche he had long tyme of a purpose kept vnder the stone of his ryng, and so poysoned hymself out of hande. Plutarchus ioyneth the life of Demosthenes and of Cicero bothe toge∣ther, and compareth theim twoo together as a veraye good matche and wel coupleed. For (sai∣eth he) whē god at the first begynnyng fourmed Demosthenes & Cicero bothe after one paterne, he semeth to haue putte and enspired into their natures and disposicions many like qualitees, as for example, that bothe the one and the other was ambicious, bothe the one and the other a citezen francke, bolde and plain in tellyng his mynde to the people, bothe of theim to perilles, ieoperdies and warres not veraye hardy mēne. There wer in their fortunes also many thinges

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ommune aswell to the one as to the other. Fo I cannot fynd any oter twoo oratours, which beeyng of sembleable lowe birth, grewe to bee soo greate menne of authoritee and dignite, and which durst auenture to wihstand kynges and chief gouernours, and lost their doughters, we banyshed their countrees, & returned fette home again with honour, eftsons voidyng their ci∣tees came into the handes of their enemies and finally whiche wer extincted together with the libertee of their countree.

[ 1] ONe ☞ 1.1Pythias obiected to Demosthenes that his argumentes of rheto∣rike smelled all of the cādle:* 1.2 signifiyng, that he pronoūced none oraciō but out of writyng, and made with greate studie by cādle in the night tyme. Whiche saiyng Demosthenes in such wyse reuersed backe again, that he auouched hymself and ye other partie not to bee at equal charges for candle, Notyng y the other was a contynuall reueller and gourmaunder by night, and bestowed more money on ryot∣tous banquettyng, then he on his behalf did n studie.

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Unto others obiectyng vnto [ 2] hym vnmeasurable affectacion of eloquence he thus aunswered,* 1.3 the studie of eloquence to declare a manne that loueth the people, and can bee contented to bee feloe like with the people: and cōtrariewyse to neglect the studie of eloquence, to bee the guyse of suche persones as sought to bee lordes ouer the people, as the whiche went about not to perswade menne by fyne vt¦treaunce of a matier, but to com∣pell theim parforce.

As often as Phocion should arise [ 3]

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to saie his mynde in any assēblee Demosthenes would saie of thesam Phocion to his frendes yt sate nexte by hym:* 1.4 now ariseth vp the axe o all my reasons. For Phociō was brief in tellyng his tale,* 1.5 but sharpe as a axe And his custome was for y moste parte to bee of a contrarie mynde and opinion to Demosthenes.

[ 4] The people of Athenes ymportu∣nely required Demosthenes to take vpō hym ye accusyng of a certain persone.* 1.6 And when Demosthenes re∣fused to dooe it, ye people begoōne to bee vp in a rore against hym, (as commenly thei will in suche a case) thē Demosthenes arisyng spake in this manier: O ye menne of Athenes, ye haue of me a faithfull counsaillour & helper at all tymes of neede whether ye will or not, but a false accuser shall ye neuer haue of me would ye neuer so fain.

[ 5] Demosthenes had been one of the

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enne, whom the Atheniens had sent mbassadours vnto Philippus kyng f Macedonie.* 1.7 So after that Aeschines nd Philocrates (whiche twoo Philip∣us had especially aboue ye residue familiarly embraced & made of) beeyng come home again frō the saied ambassade, gaue the kyng muche high praise, partely for ma∣ny other thynges, & especially for these three folowyng, that he was full of fauour and beautie,* 1.8 that he had a goodly eloquente toung, & yt he could drynk lustyly. Demosthe∣nes made this cauillacion, that he auouched in all those praises to bee not so muche as one poincte comely for a kyng.* 1.9 For ye first, he saied, belonged to women, the se∣counde to sophistes or rhetorici∣ans, and the thirde to spounges,* 1.10

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[ 6] Demosthenes had writtē vpon hi shilde in lettres of golde 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 that is,* 1.11 Good fortune. Yet neuerthe∣lesse when it was come to handie strokes ‡ 1.12 Demosthenes euen at ye first meetyng cast shilde and all awaye from hym, & togoo as fast as his legges might beare hym. This poincte beeyng cast in his nose in the waye of mockage & reproche,* 1.13 that he had in battaill cast awaye his bucler, and taken hym to his heeles,* 1.14 like a pretie māne, he auoi∣ded it with a litle verse commen in euery bodyes mouthe.

* 1.15 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉. That same manne, that renneth awaye, Maye again fight, an other daye.

Iudgeyng that it is more for ye benefit of ones coūtree to renne awaye in battaill, then to lese his life. For a dedde manne can fight no more, but who hath saued hymself aliue by rennyng awaye, maye in many battailles mo, doo good seruice to his coūtr At leste wise, if it bee a poincte of good ser∣uice, to renne awaye at al tymes when the coun∣ree hath moste nede of his helpe to sticke to it.

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[ 7] When Alexander on this condi∣cion offreed peace vnto ye Athenien if thesame would yeld vp into his handes eight of ye citezens,* 1.16 emōg whō Demosthenes to bee one: Demosthenes told vnto theim the tale of the woulf, who vpon this condicion offreed peace vnto the sheepe, if y same would yeld and deliuer hym their dogges that kept hym from the folde. Under the name of the woulf betokenyng Alexāder, by the dogges menyng those persones who at that present season had the cure and charge of all ye pub∣lique affaires, and by the sheepe signifiyng the commenaltie of the Atheniens. He ad∣ded moreouer an other exaumple. As the mercatemenne (saieth he)

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dooe bryng out a litle modicum of wheate or other corne in a treen¦dishe for a saumple or shewe,* 1.17 de∣siryng by thesame to sell whole greate heapes: so ye, if ye betraie and deliuer vp the eight citezens whiche are demaunded of you, ye betraie & deliuer ye whole vniuer∣sall people euery mothers chylde.

When Demosthenes beeyng con∣demned [ 8] of ye Areopagites,* 1.18 had esca∣ped out of prieson, & was rennyng * 1.19awaye, & had mette in the teeth not ferre from ye citee, certain per∣sones of the contrarie parte, that wer not his frēdes: first he would faine haue hidden hymself. But when ye parties speakyng to hym, & callyng hym Demosthenes by his name, bidde hym to bee of good coumforte,* 1.20 & also offreed hym mo∣ney to help hym on his waye, he gaue an heauie sigh euen from ye botome of his herte, saiyng: How

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can I possible forsake this citee, in whiche I haue suche enemies, as I shall not fynd frendes of the like sorte in an other countree?

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It is reported that Demosthenes [ 9] in his departyng from y citee loo∣ked backe vnto the toure of Pallas,* 1.21 & his handes lifted vp vnto hea∣uen saied: O Pallas ladie of citees, why settest thou thy delite in three the moste vnluckeful beastes of ye worlde, the oulette,* 1.22 the draguon, and the people? The oulette wher∣as she is of all birdes the moste vnluckefull,* 1.23 yet is she dedicated vnto Pallas, like as the same Pallas hath a draguō also whiche she beareth aboute wt hir for hir cognisaunce.* 1.24 And as for ye people is a monstreous beaste of many heddes, accustomed with ye moste

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naughtie vnkyndenesse possible to rewarde suche persones as hath dooen theim bene∣fite, as thei did Socrates, Phociō, * 1.25Scipio and right many others mo.

[ 10] Unto the young menne wt whō

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he vsed familiaritee, he would of∣ten tymes saie,* 1.26 that knowyng as he now did, how muche enuie, feare, false surmuised querelyng, and how muche perill, a manne comyng to ye affaires of the com∣menweale hath to looke for, if the one of twoo wer to bee chosen, he would rather goo to his death, thē vp into a pulpite to make an ora∣cion, orels vp to the benche to sitte vpon matiers of iudgemente.

At what tyme he liued in Arca∣dia [ 11] a banyshed manne,* 1.27 and Pytheas in the fauour and behalf of ye Ma∣cedonians had saied in this manier, as wee deme yt hous to haue some eiuil maladie wtin it, into ye which is carryed mylke for to bee sold, so may wee thynk yt citee to bee cor¦rupted wt some eiuil disease, vnto the whiche is sent any ambassade of ye Atheniens: Demosthenes thus tur∣ned yt clause clene arsee versee. As

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mylke (saieth he) is brought into houses for to restore sicke folkes to their helthe again, so are the Atheniens alwayes readie for ye safe∣garde and preseruacion of other foren citees.* 1.28 As soone as the com∣menaltie of ye Atheniens had knowe∣lage of this, thei foorthwithall sent for hym to come home again from exile.

After this saiyng, the comenaltie of Athene whiche had afore condēned hym, wer soodainly stricken again in loue with hym, and saied tha he was an honest manne again, and loued the ci∣tee, and many gaye good morowes. Wherupon Damon Paeaniens ye neffewe of Demosthene made mocion vnto the people that Demosthe∣nes might bee restored to his former state and might come home to the citee again. The people made a decree vpon it. And vnto Aegina was sent a galie for hym to fette & bryng hym home again with honour. And whē he was approched nere to Athenes, all the magistrates of the citee, all the ministres and presidentes of the temples full and whole, and the other citezens by whole ••••ockes went to meete hym, & receiued hym (as ye would saie) with generall processiō, and with all triumphe, honour, and solemnitee. Yea, and the fine of fiftie talentes whiche he had afore been condemned in, (because thei might not by iustice or law releasse or forgeue it) thei ordeined by a publique decree to couerte vnto the altare

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of Minerua, and to bee deducted of the money whiche was to bee leuie for the behouf of the same altare. For the Atheniens had a vse and custome at certain feaste (which thei called the feaste of Iupiter the saueour) to make a commē boxe for y repairyng, deckyng, and furnyshyng of the altare of Minerua, and for the dooyng of this, thei appoincted a gatheryng of fiftie talen∣tes in the name of Minerua, to bee conuerted and applyed to y satisfiyng and paiyng of De∣mosthene his fyne, for in so muche a summe he was condemned, as afore is saied.

When a shippe was sent hym [ 12] returnyng home again frō exile,* 1.29 and many of the magistrates or publique officers, and citezēs had come foorth of the citee to meete hym, Demosthenes liftyng vp his handes to heauen, saied, yt a more honourable returnyng had chaū∣ced vnto hym then vnto Alcibiades, for that ‡ 1.30Alcibiades had come home again, the citezens constreigned parforce to sēd for hym, and he on his partie, ye citezens through pea¦ceable and gentle perswasiō con∣descēdyng & a greeyng therunto.

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After that Demosthenes for feare [ 13] of Antipater had fledde into the Isle of Calauria,* 1.31 and kept hymself in the temple of Neptunus, and Archias,* 1.32 of a plaier of tragidies now growen & come vp to bee a māne of power assaied and laboured with honey sweete woordes to perswade De∣mosthenes that thesame should putte hymself in ye grace of Antipater,* 1.33 by whō not onely to haue nomanier harme at all, but also to bee ho∣noured with moste high & boun∣teous rewardes: He saied in this manier: O Archias thou neuer did∣dest like me in thy life on ye staige beeyng a plaier, nor shalt {per}suade me to thy purpose now at this pre¦sent beeyng an oratour. But whē Archias beeyng throughly out of paciēce thretened to pull hym par∣force out of the temple: yea marie

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({quod} Demosthenes) now at last thou hast plainly opened the * 1.34 oracles of Macedonie.* 1.35 For vntill ye speakyng of this woorde, thou diddest but countrefaicte and make a feigned countenaūce accordyng to ye guise and facion of entrelude plaiers.

[ 14] Demosthenes is reported to haue sailled on a tyme to ye citee of Co∣rinthe,* 1.36 enticed & allured wt the fame of Lais a Courtisan there of greate name,* 1.37 to thentente yt he also emōg the mo might haue his pleasure of the paramour whiche all ye worlde spake of. But when she by coue∣naūte required for one night tēne thousande drachmes,* 1.38 Demosthenes feared wt the greatenesse of ye price chaunged his mynde, saiyng:

〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉.
that is:

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I will not bye repentaunce so dere.
Signifiyng, that vnto vnhoneste plea∣sure repentaunce is a prest compaignion to come after.* 1.39 Yea and one propretee more it hath, that the pleasure is small, and is gon in a momente, the repentaunce greate, and still endu¦ryng as long as life continueth.‡ 1.40

The saiyng of Pytheas is cōmen [ 15,] and muche spoken of, that the ora¦cions of Demosthenes smelled all of the candle,* 1.41 for that thesame did in the night seasō wryte and recorde suche thynges as he had to saie to the people in the daye tyme. So whē an other feloe, whiche had an eiuill name abrode for the suspiciō of piekyng and brybyng, veraye malapertely inueighed against ye same thyng: I knowe it full well ({quod} Demosthenes) yt wee dooe werke the muche sorowe, in yt wee light candles in the night.* 1.42 For priue

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stealers loue ye derke.

[ 16] On Demades cryyng, oh, Demosthe¦nes will take vpon hym to correcte me,* 1.43 the sow will teache* 1.44 Minerua, ye same Demosthenes saied: Yea, but this Minerua ({quod} he) was taken the last yere in aduou••••ie.* 1.45 He lated vnto ye charge of Demades aduoutrie, wher as the poetes dooe make Minerua to bee a perpetuall virgin.

[ 17] Thesame Demosthenes withstood ye Atheniens ymportunely desiryng hym to shewe his aduise,* 1.46 & saied:

〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉.
that is, I am none of those whiche are brought, vnder coram. Signifi∣yng, that he was not as a bondeseruaunte

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made to the becke of the people, but at his owne wille & pleasure at all tymes to dooe what thyng he had iudged expediente to bee dooen.

A certain bonde maiden had re∣ceiued [ 18] of twoo menne of hir ac∣quaintaunce a certain summe of money to kepe for theim, with this condiciō and agreemente, that she should redeliuer thesame summe vnto theim bothe together. The one of these twoo parties within a shorte space after, comyng cladde in a mournyng garmente, & goo∣yng as though he had no ioye of his life, and feignyng that his par¦tener was dedde, beguiled the wo∣man, & gotte the money out of hir fyngers.* 1.47 This dooen, anon came the secounde partie vnlooked for, and begoonne to require that had been leafte in hir custodie. And wher ye woman beeyng in a pecke of troubles was half in mynde & purpose to hang hirself, Demosthenes

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was so good vnto hir to become hir aduocate, who, as soone as he came to make his plea in hir be∣half, went roundely to the demaū∣der of the money after this sorte: This woman (saieth he) is readie well & truely to discharge hirself of the money which she was putte in truste withal to kepe, but onles thou bryng thy partener too, she maye not dooe it, because that by thyne owne confession and woor∣des, this was a plain composiciō made betwen you, that the money should in no wyse bee deliuered to the one of you without the other. By this suttle ingen he saued the poore seelie woman, and clerely defeacted the con∣spirisie of the two vilaines, who had drieuē a drifte to receiue double paimente of one summe.

To a certain {per}sone demaūdyng [ 19] what was the principall poincte in eloquence, he made aunswer, hy¦pocrisis,

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that is, accion or pronun∣ciacion. To yesame persone eftsons askyng, what was y nexte poincte and what the thirde, he still made none other aunswer but, accion, accion. Referryng so muche to pro∣nunciacion, that he thought all together to consiste in thesame. And in deede y accion or pronunciacion comprehendeth many thyn∣ges mo then one, that is to weete, the tem∣peryng and qualifiyng of the voice, the ear∣nest looke of the yies, the porte of the coun∣teaunce, and the gesturyng or conueigh∣aunce of all the whole bodye.

When the fyngers of the Athe∣niens [ 20] ticleed to aid and succour Har¦palus, and wer now alreadie vp to∣wardes warre against Alexander, soodainly was seen Philoxenus ar∣riued in the countree of Attica, whō Alexander had made his high ami∣rall. At this sodain arriuall of the saied Philoxenus when y people bee¦yng with feare astouned wer soo∣dainly whished & weaxed dumme:

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what would these menne dooe ({quod} Demosthenes) if thei should see the soonne, which haue not the power to looke against a candle? After suche sorte did he vpbraid to the people their rashe and vnaduised stieryng of coles, and arisynges to warre. By the soonne he me∣ned Alexander, in comparison of whom, this Philoxenus was scacely to bee estemed a cādle.

[ 21] Certain persones estemyng and saiyng that Demades had now geuē ouer to bee suche an haine, as he had been in tyme past:* 1.48 Yea marie ({quod} Demosthenes,) for now ye see hym ful paunched, as lyons are For Demades was couetous and gredie of mo∣ney. And in deede the lyons are more gentle when their bealyes are well filled.

When he was by a certain per∣sone [ 22] reuiled with muche naughty language:* 1.49 I am now matched ({quod} he) to buccle in a strife, in whiche who so hath in fine the ouer hāde, getteth the wurse, and who so ouer cometh, leseth the victorie.

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Thesame Demosthenes, when he [ 23] heard a certain oratour speakyng out of measure loude and high, & all together in Pilates voice, saied: Not all that is greate,* 1.50 is well, but all that is well is greate. This saiyng is ascribed to others also. And some folkes there been, that esteme feastes whiche are drawen of a greate length to sitte all daie, and are furnyshed with soondrie dishes or courses of the moste,* 1.51 to bee royall deintie geare, wheras by the plain determinacion of all naturall philosophiers, and of all good physicians in the world, one good dishe alone to fde on is more naturall and more holsome for the bodye, then the varietee of many costely di∣ses at one repaste.

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