Presidential Advisory Council on HIV/AIDS, International Issues Subcommittee [Transcript]

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1 make them. Am I correct?
2 DR. MANN: If the President can point to the
3 person to be that champion who, given the authority to
4 marshall the public resources -- DHHS alone, obviously in
5 collaboration with some other agencies -- then this would
6 move forward.
7 MR. FOGEL: But if they made the decision to go
8 forward with field trials, you're saying NIH couldn't
9 supervise the field trials?
10 DR. MANN: I'm saying that NIH is NIH and it
11 has its strengths, but NIH alone is not the best. I mean,
12 I'm looking at it from the viewpoint of the American
13 public, the American citizen. I want the best of each
14 element. I wouldn't give everything to CDC. It would be
15 silly. I wouldn't give everything to NIH. But DHHS has
16 within it that scope, that capacity to clearly bring all
17 the requisite skills to bear, and I'm saying NIH is
18 necessary but not sufficient.
19 MR. FOGEL: So you're suggesting that not only
20 a decision be made, but someone be appointed to run with
21 it?
22 DR. MANN: Well, my point is that usually these
23 people, like I mentioned Basil O'Connor -- the idea of
24 leadership takes physical form in a person. So although
25 you have an idea and a declaration, it's that person who
26 then can carry that effort forward. I imagine that both

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