Mathilde Krim, Mark Harrington, Scavalo’s Restaurant Following House Subcommittee Hearing on NIH Reauthorization

Mathilde Krim, Mark Harrington
Scavalo's Restaurant following House Subcommitee hearing
on NIH Reauthorization
000 The historical model of the MP is totally inappropriate here because it
was a case historicaly of upscaling existing technology and then you could
just multiply everything by 100 and do something. When we deal with an
epidemic like AIDS there is an enormous amount of fundamental research that
remains to be done. and the best way to do it is through iir. in descrete
areas there may be areas for miniMP...let's say we find vaccine that may...
011 let's say an antisense seems miraculous then we would design... there also
are fantastic ethical and legal questions to be solved, we're dealing with
people, not materials.
017 we should define what we call MP. if you define it as a planned effort to
which unlimited resources are committed, then this is what should be
done...oar is only one piece of it...probably sitting next to the prez as a
domestic council...somebody who knows how the gvt works and can oversee diff
agencies and that goes all the way from va to army to ss to cdc. that's the
czar. the czarina, and under the czar would be the director of aids research
033 WHAT YOU THINK OF TAKING 100M...LISTING TOP QUESTIONS
040 Define the priorities, yes i think we should do that.
SEPARTE FROM NIH
i don't think the gvt can operate this way. the gvt has all these checks and
balances and cannot just give out 100m dollars...it's a wonderful idea
055 it's not telling him what to do and that's the big difference. all these
people who are against what we're doing today are all people who are afraid
that it's going to tell scientists what to do...
THIS NOT MP
066 No we don't think of it as MP. in a mini way...oar will not have the kind
of freedom you were talking about before. this is why amfar even with a very
small amt. of $, we do that, alto we go through peer review..we give grants
out very fast, much faster than the governemtn, within 2 to 4 months and we
ask for reports and we want to see what progress is made. it's entierly iir,
we try to be more adventurous than the gvt is
080 POLIO MODEL
084 little children
086 causual transmission was a reason for real fear
091 i think a certain amt of fear is justified, is very justified
102 we may slwoly but surely move to a mode like this. at the beg there was so
little nih sponsored research we were gropoing in the dark so we decided to
receive ideas from all over and try to fund them only on scientific merit and
relevance without trying to set priorities.

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