[Interview Questions from Jon Cohen to Secretary of Defense]

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.".ZT:30 92 12:5? F ROM O SD-FA-DDI P.-Ell-I PAGE. 002 DIRECTORATE FOR DEFENSE INFORMATION DATE: October 28, 1992 TIME: a.m. PA REP: Hansen, x50192 QUERY FROM: PHONE: QUESTION: ANSWER: QUESTION: ANSWER: QITUEXION: Jon Cohen, Science 202-332 9564 In his October 23 article in Science, reporter quotes MicroGeneSys lobbyist Dou.aid Clarey saying he went to "the budget people" who work in the office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Health Affairs. Who from that office spoke with Clarey and/or his partner John O'Shaughnessy? In late spring 1992, Ms. Katherine Railey, then Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Health Budgets and Programs in the Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Health Affairs, agreed to a meeting requested by Mr. Clarey. Mr. Clarey, Mr. O'Shaughnessey. Mr. Volvovitz of MicroGeneSys, and former Senator Long attended the meeting. Ms. Railey was the only participant from the Defense Department. During the meeting, Mr. Volvovitz took the opportunity to share the nature of research that the Army had been conducting on gp 160 and to mention the company's interest in expanding its research efforts. Ms. Railey explained that the President's FY 93 budget had been subjhmitted and that the Department would not support any increase in the Presideni's request for DoD medical research. There were no discussions of---nor would Ms Railey have been in a position to discuss-- the scientific merit of the MicroGeneSys research or the appropriateness of including the expanded trials in the budget The meeting lasted 20 - 30 minutes. Ms. Railey had no subsequent contacts with MroGeneSys or representatives of the Congress on this matter. If such discussions took place, what was their nature? Sec q DiD Russell Long or anyone from his law firm speak with that DoD office about the,\lthough Ser'or Long attended the meeting mentioned in Q1, Ms. Railey does not recall hi; being an active participant in the discussion. Did Franklin Volvovitz or anyone else from MicroGeneSys speak with that office? ANSWER: QUESIO A Nb'W R:

OT:_C"T 30 ' 32 1 2: FE: F F' _ M PA-L:D I F'AGE. 00;3 QUFS1ION: ANSWFER: QUESTION: Was Assistant Secretary Mendez or anyone in his office aware of the legislation prior to 18 September 1992? No. Did anyone in that office speak with anyone from Congress or congressionat staff about the matter? If so, what was said by both parties? ANSWER: QUESTION: ANSWER: No Is DoD planning to investigate (or already investigating) this matter on any level, including the Army9 If so, what does/will the investigation entail, who investigated it, and what i the purpose?9 We are not a ware of any investigation on the passage of the amendment pertaining to HIV research by the Office of the Secretary of Defense.