A fresh suit against human ceremonies in God's vvorship. Or a triplication unto. D. Burgesse his rejoinder for D. Morton The first part

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A fresh suit against human ceremonies in God's vvorship. Or a triplication unto. D. Burgesse his rejoinder for D. Morton The first part
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Ames, William, 1576-1633.
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[Amsterdam] :: Printed [by the successors of Giles Thorp],
anno 1633.
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Burges, John, 1561?-1635. -- Answer rejoyned to that much applauded pamphlet of a namelesse author, bearing this title: viz. A reply to Dr. Mortons generall Defence of three nocent ceremonies, &c.
Church of England -- Liturgy -- Early works to 1800.
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Cathedrall musick with Organs.

2. THe first question was, If the Primitive Church had such chaunting Idol-service, as is in out Cathedrall Churches? The Rejoynder after some words spent about singing, (about which he bring∣eth not the least resemblance of that in question, untill the fourth age after Christ) excepteth first, that Organall musicke was gods ordinance in the old Testament, and that not significant, or typicall; and therefore is sinfully calld Idol-service. 2. That all men whose hearts are not averse, by di∣straction, stupidity, or prejudice, feele such musicke to worke much upon their affections. To this I say 1. that his de∣nying of Organall musicke to have beene significant or typicall, is without reason, and against the current of our Divines; taken (as it may seeme) out of Bellarmine de missa. lib. 2. cap. 15.) who useth this evasion against

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those words of P. Martyr: Musicall organs perteyne to the Iewish Ceremonie, and agree no more to us, then Circumcision. So that we may neglect it, and take him as saying, that nothing which was ordained in the old Testament (no not sacrificing of beasts) is now an Idol-service. 2. For that, and the other, both together, it is fit the Rejoynder should be put in minde how many, and what kinde of men, he accuseth of distraction, stupidity, or prejudice!

1. Thomas Aquinas (in whose time this faction was not in generall request,* 1.1 much lesse in the Primitive) in 22. q. 91. a. 2.4. opposeth thus: The Church useth no mu∣sick for divine praises, lest it should seeme to Indaize, and an¦swereth thus: Musicall instruments doe more stirre up the minde to delight, then frame it to a right disposition. In the old Testament there was some need of them, both, &c. and al∣so because they did figure out something. Erasmus, in 1. Cor. 14. sayth thus: We have brought a tedious and player-like musicke into the Church, a tumultuous noyse of many voyces, such as I thinke was not heard among the Theaters of Grecians or Romans. For which purpose, whole flockes of boyes are maintained at great charges, whose age also is all spent in lear∣ning such gibble gabble. At such cost is the Church or a pe∣stiferous thing, &c.

It is evident that that some Ecclsiasticall chanting and roarings in our Temples (scarse also understood of the Priests themselves) is a most foolish and vaine abuse,* 1.2 and a most per∣nicious let to piety. I make no question but all that kinde of

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musicke was a part of the legall pedagogie. In the solemne wor∣ship of God, I doe not judge it more sutable, then if we should recall the incense, tapers, and other shadowes of the Law, into use. I say againe, to goe beyond what we are taught, is most wicked pervicacy.

It would be too tedious, if I should reckon up all that have assented to these. I will adde onely the two and thirty grave learned men, which were chosen in King Edwards dayes, to reforme Ecclesiasticall lawes, and observances they judged this law fitting,* 1.3 It likes us well to have this te∣dious kinde of musicke taken away. Certainely these were neither distracted, nor stupid men: whence their prejudice came, let the Rejoynder himselfe judge.

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